And we're hot. Well that wasn't bad. We didn't blow up in an argument. It was pretty good. I don't think Donald Trump came up once, did he?

But if I think it's good, then I'm going to re-list into it. It's going to suck.

Yeah, probably going to be unlistable.

The levels will be shit as usual.

Everything will be off.

That was another thing that didn't mention the Jack Dorsey thing.

Any politics or anything really.

Like, I guess, I guess they maybe wanted him to come out being for a

Hillary chill or something like that or who knows but it didn't come up at all so

it was a refreshing conversation I think yeah that's why I got

I really enjoyed that episode I just I listen how many times do you watch an

interview where it's one person just like

Demanding answers from the other person? You know what I mean? That's just not how shit works. Well, yeah, I don't think anyone wants to do that. Go through that, I guess it'd be a grilling on...

And then who's like Matt says all the time, who the fuck would come back on his show

if he's a huge asshole?

Yeah, yeah, I agree emphatically.

We want there to be good guests.

And we're never going to get them if every time he has a good guest he's like, and I gotta know

this and I gotta know that and you gotta answer answer this and you got you know what I mean sometimes the things just got a flow if someone feels feels away then they I guess they pursue that and it must feel a victory that statement from Joe to them.

I think you got a feel too like it.

Sorry can you expand on that camera I don't think they feel like he capitulated or

yeah they feel like it's a victory that Joe is going to have him back on I don't know one I don't know what they think of I can't wait to hear Joe talk about this because I'd really like to hear his whole

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