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today and now back to the show. All right, well, let's do our introduction. Welcome to Verily,

there's the Affliction Mormon History Podcast. That's right. These are your normal hosts of

Lions Led by Donkey's. Actually, this is just a normal thing that we do. The three of us,

normal guys, just hanging out. Of course, this is the guy that you know and love, and I've always

loved Kyle. Here to speak to you. Brother Kyle. Brother Kyle, excuse me. Speaking of brother,

brother Greg, I want to introduce yourself to our normal listeners here. Yes, I am brother Greg.

I am Bishop of the Avenue's Ward in Salt Lake City. It is a pleasure to be here today,

brothers and sisters. Thank you so much. Oh, my heart is full.

And I am elder Jordan, and I'm here to speak to you about the Gospel of the Church of Jesus

Christ of Latter-day Saints and how it kind of took a militaristic turn in 19th century. So,

that's fun. It is now. Really quickly, ladies and gentlemen, are you ready to accept

why Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior? I know I sure am, but also we've got a visitor

in our ward today. And of course, that visitor and guest is Joe Kisebian. Hello, Joe.

Hey, thanks for having me. I'm a longtime listener, first time guests. I don't know what to

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