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The Literary Life Podcast

Episode 145: The Medieval Mind of C. S. Lewis: A Conversation with Jason M. Baxter

The Literary Life Podcast

Angelina Stanford

Arts, Books, Education

4.7 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2022

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

On The Literary Life Podcast this week, our hosts Angelina Stanford, Cindy Rollins, and Thomas Banks sit down for a special conversation with Jason Baxter, author of The Medieval Mind of C. S. Lewis. Jason is a speaker, writer, and college professor who writes primarily on medieval thought and is especially interested in Lewis' ideas. You can find out more about him and his books at JasonMBaxter.com.

Our hosts and Jason discuss a wide range of ideas, including the values of literature, the sacramental view of reality, why it is important to understand medieval thought, the "problem" of paganism in Lewis' writings, and how to approach reading ancient and medieval literature.

Be back next week when we will begin digging into Bram Stoker's Dracula together and learning more about this late Victorian Gothic novel. It's not what you might think!

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Commonplace Quotes:

My part has been merely that of Walter Scott's Old Mortality, who busied himself in clearing the moss, and bringing back to light the words, on the gravestones of the dead who seemed to him to have served humanity. This needs to be done and redone, generation after generation, in a world where there persists always a strong tendency to read newer writers, not because they are better, but because they are newer. The moss grows fast, and ceaselessly.

F. L. Lucas

It is the memory of time that makes us old; remembering eternity makes us young again.

Statford Caldecott

It is my settled conviction that in order to read old Western literature aright, you must suspend most of the responses and unlearn most of the habits you have acquired in reading modern literature.

C. S. Lewis, from "De Descriptione Temporum"

What then is the good of–what is even the defense for–occupying our hearts with stories of what never happened and entering vicariously into feeling which we should try to avoid in our own person?…The nearest I have yet got to an answer is that we seek an enlargement of our being. We want to be more than ourselves…[In] reading great literature I become a thousand men and yet remain myself. Like the night sky in the Greek poem, I see with myriad eyes, but it is still I who see. Here as in worship, in love, in moral action, and in knowing, I transcend myself; and am never more myself than when I do.

C. S. Lewis

Victory

by C. S. Lewis

Roland is dead, Cuchulain's crest is low,
The battered war-rear wastes and turns to rust,
And Helen's eyes and Iseult's lips are dust
And dust the shoulders and the breasts of snow.

The faerie people from our woods are gone,
No Dryads have I found in all our trees,
No Triton blows his horn about our seas
And Arthur sleeps far hence in Avalon.

The ancient songs they wither as the grass
And waste as doth a garment waxen old,
All poets have been fools who thought to mould
A monument more durable than brass.

For these decay: but not for that decays
The yearning, high, rebellious spirit of man
That never rested yet since life began
From striving with red Nature and her ways.

Now in the filth of war, the baresark shout
Of battle, it is vexed. And yet so oft
Out of the deeps, of old, it rose aloft
That they who watch the ages may not doubt.

Though often bruised, oft broken by the rod,
Yet, like the phoenix, from each fiery bed
Higher the stricken spirit lifts its head
And higher-till the beast become a god.

Book List:

Beauty in the Word by Stratford Caldecott

An Experiment in Criticism by C. S. Lewis

The Discarded Image by C. S. Lewis

The Art of Living: Four Eighteenth Century Minds by F. L. Lucas

Transposition by C. S. Lewis

The Weight of Glory by C. S. Lewis

Til We Have Faces by C. S. Lewis

The Divine Comedy by Dante

Nicholas of Cusa

The Life of St. Francis of Assisi by St. Bonaventure

The Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius

Confessions by St. Augustine

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Transcript

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0:00.0

You're going to. This is not just another book chat podcast.

0:22.8

Lifelongs,

0:24.8

joins teachers Angelina Stanford and Thomas Banks

0:27.6

for an ongoing conversation

0:29.5

about the skill and art of reading well.

0:33.0

Explore the lost intellectual tradition

0:35.6

and discover how to fully enter into the great works of literature.

0:40.2

Learn what books mean while delighting

0:42.4

in the sheer joy of imagination.

0:45.0

Each week we will rescue a story from the ivory tower

0:49.0

and bring it to your couch, your kitchen, and your commute.

0:53.6

The literary life is for everyone, because in the words of Stratford Caldecott,

0:57.9

to be enchanted by story is to be granted a deeper insight into reality.

1:03.5

Join us for an ever unfolding discussion

1:06.6

of how stories will save the world.

1:09.5

This is the Literary Life Podcast. Hello and welcome to the literary life podcast. Today we are very excited to introduce you to what I hope is not a new name to you because if you've been paying attention to this podcast I have been raving about this book for months and months. We are very excited to welcome to the podcast

1:44.6

Jason Baxter who is author of many books and I'll officially introduce him in just a minute

1:49.3

but welcome Jason we are so happy to have you here today. Thank you so much. This is a delight.

1:54.4

I hope I hope you still feel that way an hour from now. We'll see. I'll let you know. We'll see so

2:00.3

I'm just gonna start off with an embarrassing story, which it might not be embarrassing to you or not. I don't know if you're somebody who's going to be like blushing silently in your office somewhere.

2:09.0

It's just audio, so it doesn't matter.

2:11.0

Okay, all right. Just imagine him blushing at home in a

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