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So yeah, now it's clean up on aisle 45 time, and for a long while yet it is going to be clean up on aisle 45.

Welcome to episode 145 of clean up on aisle 45. It's Wednesday, November 1st, 2023. I'm your host Pete Struck.

Hey Pete, I'm Allison Gill. We have a great show for you today. We're going to be speaking with CNN legal analyst and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution Norm Eisen.

We're going to talk about the latest in Fulton County and we have updates on the New York Attorney General civil fraud trial, including upcoming testimony from the adult children, Junior Eric Ivanka, and then of course Donald Trump himself.

And we have some Trump violations of the gag order in that case that we'll talk about.

And then later on we have some updates on Rudy, Peter Navarro and the Republican House, including the election of the new speaker and some more news about George Santos.

Additionally, we have new texts between the Cyber Ninjas CEO and an indicted Michigan lawyer.

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All right, let's start in Georgia, Pete with CNN legal analyst and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, our friend Norm Eisen. Welcome, Norm.

Hey, Norm.

Hey guy, it's wonderful to be with you. I know you as human beings. So it's amazing to me to hear your very professional podcast voices.

Well, that's funny. I'm so glad that we have you here because I have so many questions about these these plea deals that have gone down.

We've got four now. We're down to 15 co-defendants in Fulton County, which started with Scott Hall, the bail bondsman and then Sidney Powell closely followed by the cheese, Ken Chazbro, who didn't want to stand alone and have to face his speedy trial by himself, I guess.

But no, he did because he filed for severance, but regardless, he also pled and then we had Jenna Ellis.

And I wanted to ask you, Norm, how these particular plea deals impact the fact that some of these people might be on the hook for charges and other jurisdictions and, you know, not just federally, but maybe in other states.

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