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Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Lines Led by Donkey's Podcast. I'm Joe, and with me

today is Jack Trumbull, host of The Let's Talk about Wargames Podcast, Crafter of Words,

and I'm trying to think of another superfluorious title to give you.

That's it. You did it. That sums it up.

I gave journalists, I think, is a little bit of what it is.

It's all about ethics and game journalism, Jack.

I have heard that a lot, and I think we should be more on ethical, actually.

Yeah, I stand on ethical journalism all day, which is why I've accepted a new position as the

head editor of Quillette. My family has this owned me, and that's why Nick has gone.

But in case anybody is curious, I'm kidding.

This is a cover for using dog shampoo, isn't it?

For 10 years.

For 10 years.

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