Hi friends, welcome to the that sounds fun podcast. This is your host Annie F. Downs. I'm

so glad to be here with you today. Welcome to the month of June. I totally love this month.

It makes me think of like flowers and swimming and playing outside and weddings and it's just

usually a really beautiful month. So I hope your June has started off well. A mine has been great,

man. I am excited about today's podcast. We've had authors on before. Shana Nikquist, Jessica Turner,

Ted Decker, Emily Freeman, Angie Smith. We I love getting authors on the podcast, but this is a

special week because this week, Christopher Black Gifford's new book Heart Made Whole releases.

And man, I got to read it a few months ago to endorse it. And I'm not kidding y'all. It just

absolutely changed me. It is one of those books that if you read it and implement what she has

taught in there, it really well. It'll change your life. It's changed her life and you can see it

and hear that and it's changed my life as a reader and as her friends. So as you can imagine, you know

me well enough that pretty much Chris and I sat down put our headphones on and dove right in

to our hearts pretty quickly. So we didn't we didn't really come up for air for the entire time

together. We just jumped right in and talked about what it means to really know your heart and

love your heart and how to love God when you learn to love yourself well. So I really hope you

enjoy this conversation between me and Christopher Black Gifford.

So you're recording today. You're going you haven't crying already? Yeah. Oh good.

In a good way. Yeah. Getting my heart. Oh yeah. Okay. So when you do that in the mornings,

you literally just sit down and go like I meditate every morning and I

spelunk from my head. I get in a bucket like I'm lowering into a well. Yeah. And I get in and I

lower down into my heart. Yeah. And then as I lower into my heart, I lower towards light.

Because my spirit portion of my heart is the temple that's always filled. I mean that's the

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