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Episode 139 | Knox Robinson

the morning shakeout podcast

the morning shakeout podcast

Coaching, Marathons, Sports, Olympics, Running, Ultrarunning

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2020

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

“I started to wonder decades later if running for me was the first time that I had ever had facts ascribed to my name. And I wonder if being lied about and called racial epithets from a young age and to know from age 4 or 5 that I’m living in a society that speaks of you in a way that you know is not accurate and you know is not who yourself to be. And so for an entire lifetime of people lying to you and lying about you, saying you did something that you didn’t do, saying that you were someplace that you weren’t, somebody saying or assuming you would do something or had done something that had never even entered your mind. I think running, and getting times, for the first time, for me, as a teenager, was the first time that I ever had experience with facts, you know what I mean? You can’t lie about your time. You can’t lie about your race. It’s there in the newspaper, in the results section, and I think that that experience was so intoxicating to me, that like, you could call me whatever you want, and you could say all these racist stereotypes about black people you want, but you can’t never say that Knox Robinson didn’t run 9:41 on a Tuesday night.”Knox Robinson is a returning guest to the show. He first appeared back on Episode 12, which was recorded Boston Marathon weekend in 2018.In addition to being a friend of mine, Knox is a writer, coach, and athlete who is now based in Los Angeles. Prior to that he spent years in New York City, where he co-founded the Black Roses NYC running crew. Knox ran collegiately at Wake Forest before stepping away from the sport for the better part of a decade to work in the music industry. We recorded this conversation back in late July but I’ve held onto for a couple of reasons: 1. Knox was a guest on a lot of other podcasts this past summer and I didn’t want this one to get lost in the shuffle; and 2. This was at times, quite frankly, an uncomfortable exchange as we discussed difficult topics like running while black, race in America, the role of the media in all of that, and more. But I’m sharing it here today in its entirety because it had a profound impact on me and I hope it will do the same for you. We got into Knox’s roots and his background as a runner and a storyteller, his writing practice and what it looks like, and the idea of running as a sort of leveling agent. We also discussed his recent move to LA and what he hopes to achieve there, setting up a high altitude retreat in the mountains of Mexico, and a lot more.This episode is brought to you by:— Tracksmith: Tracksmith is an independent running brand built on a deep love for the sport. They craft products, tell stories, and create experiences that aim to celebrate, support and add to running’s distinct culture. This holiday season, Tracksmith is acknowledging that Running is a Gift and that this year, the miles meant more. They want to say ’thank you, running’, for being the simple act that has kept us sane in a turbulent year and they’re offering new customers $15 off your first purchase of $75 or more through the end of the month. To learn more, check out tracksmith.com and use code Mario15 at checkout.— Goodr: Goodr sunglasses are just the best! They’re the most affordable performance shades on the planet with most pairs costing only $25 to $35 bucks a piece. If you want to support the podcast and treat yourself to a pair of goodrs, head over to goodr.com/MARIO or enter the code MARIO at checkout for FREE shipping on your first order. Look good, run goodr!Complete show notes: https://themorningshakeout.com/podcast-episode-139-with-knox-robinson/Sign up here to get the morning shakeout email newsletter delivered to your inbox every Tuesday morning: www.themorningshakeout.com/subscribe/Support the morning shakeout on Patreon: www.patreon.com/themorningshakeout

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0:00.0

I started to wonder decades later if running for me was the first time that I had ever had facts ascribed to my name.

0:18.0

And I wonder if being lied about and called racial epithets from a young age and to know from age

0:30.5

age that I'm living in a society that speaks of you in a way that you know is not accurate and you know that not who yourself to be.

0:43.2

And so for an entire lifetime of people lying to you and lying about you,

0:49.7

saying you did something that you didn't do, saying that you were someplace that you weren't,

0:56.1

somebody saying or assuming you would do something or had done something that had never even entered your mind.

1:04.4

I think running and getting times for the first time for me as a teenager

1:10.4

was the first time that I ever had experience with facts. You know what I mean?

1:14.6

Like you can't lie about your time. You can't lie about your race. It's there in the

1:21.5

newspaper in the result section. And I think that that experience was so

1:26.8

intoxicating to me that like you could call me whatever you want and you could say all these

1:32.3

racist stereotypes about black people you want but you can't never say

1:36.1

that Knox Robinson didn't run 941 on a Tuesday night. Hey, what's up everyone. I'm your host Mario Freoli and you are listening to the morning Shakeout

1:53.5

podcast. My guest this week is Knox Robinson. Knox is a returning guest to

1:59.8

the show. He first appeared back in episode 12 which was recorded on Boston Marathon weekend in 2018

2:06.2

He was also the first person that I interviewed for the morning shakeouts going long series almost four years ago

2:12.3

Which I'll provide a link to in the show notes.

2:15.1

In addition to being a friend of mine Knox is a writer, coach, an athlete who is now

2:20.2

based in Los Angeles. Prior to that he spent years in New York City where he

2:24.6

co-founded the Black Roses NYC running crew. Knox ran collegiately at

2:29.2

Wake Forest before stepping away from the sport for the better part of a decade to work in the music industry.

2:35.1

He managed the careers of various artists and also served as the editor-in-chief of The Fader,

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