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It's Complicated

Episode 138 | Can Trump Use War Powers Anywhere?

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Trump is turning to the Texas National Guard to send troops to Chicago - but why Texas? Asha and Renato dig into why state control might give him a way around federal limits and what could happen if Illinois pushes back. And a US strike on alleged cartel ships in Venezuela - what does it mean for how Trump can use his war powers against anyone he deems a ‘threat?’ Tune in, you won't want to miss it!Cruise: https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/ Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.socialFollow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.socialFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 Legal AF Substack: https://substack.com/@legalaf Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF by MeidasTouch podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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need it, we print it at vistaprint.co.uk. So, Asha, can Trump get away with sending Texas National

0:35.5

Guard troops into Illinois? Eh, it's complicated.

0:40.3

I'm Asha Rangappa. I teach national security law at Yale University.

0:48.3

I'm a former FBI special agent, and I'm a legal and national security analyst.

0:53.3

And I'm Renata Marietti.

0:55.0

I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.

1:00.0

And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a soundbite

1:04.7

or a scheme.

1:10.1

I feel like we should change the title of our podcast to it's illegal.

1:17.9

It's alarming. It's alarming. It's alarming. Yeah. Yeah. Because sometimes it's like not technically

1:25.1

illegal, but it's like really crazy. crazy i mean even if you could do some

1:29.2

sort of mental gymnastics and it somehow be okay for all the red states to volunteer their national

1:35.3

guards to come invade the blue states um that would be really problematic and not at all what the

1:42.1

the people who wrote our Constitution intended.

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