Welcome to Is This Real Life, a Bravo podcast that relates our favorite shows to our own lives in the world around us.

I'm your host, Mandy Sleutopsker. Let's get to it.

Hi, real lifers. Hope you're all having a nice week. If you're teachers or if you have kids in school and you are in the U.S. or Canada, you're maybe experiencing spring break. I know my good friend Katie is on spring break right now. She's a second grade teacher and she's back home in Augusta, Georgia. And about partway through the week, I got a call from

her, and she's like, this is really weird, but I ran into Sutton. I was like, Sutton? She's like,

yeah, Sutton from Beverly Hills. She's back home in Augusta, Georgia. So I have Katie on the podcast

for a quick 10-minute breakdown of what it was like to run into Sutton.

She ended up going to Sutton's trunk show and being the only person there for a period of 15

minutes. And it is just really, I don't know, interesting to hear. I never run into housewives and I

don't know many other people that do. So I hope you guys enjoy hearing that

fun story. Also going to share some of my thoughts on Dallas and Summerhouse before we get

into the interview with Jacob Numar. So as far as Dallas goes, I think I haven't really

hit my feelings on it. I don't think this season has been that great.

And a huge part of it is just there's not a lot of chemistry. I feel like among the cast,

the ensemble, it's very weird. You've got Brandy and Stephanie who are really close and then Carrie and

and Cam. I don't know. The whole thing just doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel good.

And a huge part of it, I think, is that I thought Tiffany was an incredible addition to Dallas,

and I felt like the other women had their guards up with her and didn't like her. And that really

bothered me, because I'm like, come on, look at how open you were with Carrie

Bredingham, you know, and now you guys are all BFFs and you're having teary conversations and why

can't you extend that same, you know, openness to Tiffany. So they're still in Oklahoma and Stephanie

has them do this redneck relay, which looks kind of fun.

So I love Tiffany, and I feel like she's trying so hard to go out of her comfort zone and fit in with

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