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It's Complicated

Episode 136 | Trump “Investigations” INSTANTLY CRUMBLE as He FALLS APART

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Can the Trump DOJ make a criminal case against Adam Schiff and Letitia James? And can he really do this in other cities across the country? Asha and Renato dig in and explore potential charges and defenses. Also, Gavin Newsom is hitting back against Trump on social media.  How can other Democrats do the same. Tune in to get the whole story! Cruise with us: https://www.travelstore.com/group-travel/its-complicated-cruise-2026/ Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.social Follow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.social Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So Renato, can Trump's DOJ make a criminal case against Adam Schiff and Letitia James?

0:53.8

Eh, it's complicated.

1:00.3

I'm Renata Mariani. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.

1:07.2

And I'm Asha Rangappa. I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former FBI special agent, and I'm a legal and national security analyst.

1:16.1

And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a soundbite or a sneeze.

1:26.6

So, you know, it seems like both Letitia James and Adam Schiff have a lot of legal bills in their future.

1:38.6

Yes.

1:39.3

Adam Schiff actually just started to go fund me for his legal bills.

1:43.9

And we've talked about this before, right?

1:47.1

You've talked about how federal investigations are incredibly stressful mentally,

1:53.8

and they're also very costly because even if they don't culminate in something

2:00.4

or even culminate in a prosecution that's ultimately

2:04.4

unsuccessful, you still have to spend a lot of money to get to that point. And I think that's been

2:10.3

one of the worries is that there is a way to weaponize DOJ just to make that happen, even whatever else the legal underpinnings are.

2:24.2

That's right. In many ways, the investigation is the point. For Trump, being under investigation

2:29.5

for many years, created a drag on his first term, certainly put a cloud over him during the

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