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It's Complicated

Episode 133 | Maxwell Runs to SCOTUS as Trump CUTS Immunity DEAL

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Could Ghislaine Maxwell get a Get Out of Jail Free card? She might -- from Trump or even the Supreme Court. Asha and Renato discuss the various legal escape routes Maxwell may try to use to avoid serving her full sentence. Plus, why Trump is taking on Rupert Murdoch in court. Stay tuned to the end for a big announcement for It's Complicated! Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.social Follow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.social Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 Legal AF Substack: https://substack.com/@legalaf Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF by MeidasTouch podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So Renato, is Glenn Maxwell going to get let off the hook?

0:35.3

It's complicated.

0:41.1

I'm Renato Marietti.

0:42.8

I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.

0:47.5

And I'm Asherangappa.

0:49.0

I teach national security law at Yale University.

0:51.9

I'm a former FBI special agent, and I'm a legal and national security

0:55.9

analyst. And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a soundbite

1:01.3

or a skeet. Well, Asha, the Epstein story won't go away. Obviously, this past week we had Galane Maxwell and her attorney meet with Todd Blanche,

1:17.3

the Deputy Attorney General, for a secret interview, essentially, in which she was providing

1:23.5

information pursuant to a proffer agreement.

1:26.6

And at the same time, there's been, I would say, newfound attention on her Supreme

1:32.9

Court cert petition in which she's trying to get the United States Supreme Court to overturn

1:37.5

her conviction.

1:39.4

Right.

1:40.2

I think it's helpful to kind of look at the different escape routes that Gillen Maxwell may possibly have.

1:50.0

So one is an outright pardon from Trump.

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