4.4 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 30 October 2022
⏱️ 95 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hey, I'm Robert of Lovins, and this is Life After Emolim, a podcast where we worked |
0:10.0 | and the stigma of failure in an industry systemically designed for you to fail. |
0:15.0 | Join us as we dive into the real life stories of survivors, experts, and advocates |
0:21.0 | to debunk the common myths and fallacies of colts, scams, and multi-level marketing. |
0:31.0 | Hey, Hunbots and Hunbrows, happy Halloween. I am really excited about this episode. |
0:38.0 | So in the beginning of October, actually back in September, I was asking if anybody had any cases that I hadn't |
0:47.2 | told yet that had MLM connections and I got a ton of stuff which you've listened to all month and this particular case |
0:55.5 | that we're going to talk about today was just so deep and tragic and there was so much to it. |
1:04.0 | When I was researching it, it almost felt like I was creating a little mini documentary. |
1:09.0 | And I was like, who could come on the show and sort of tell this story with me and |
1:15.3 | react to this story with me in a way that would be fun but respectful and I was |
1:22.1 | like oh my gosh, obviously, |
1:23.9 | Jillian, Pensavale from True Crime Obsessed. |
1:27.1 | I was on her podcast, let the women do the work, |
1:30.5 | and so I reached out and I said, |
1:31.9 | hey, would you be interested in doing this Halloween episode with me? |
1:36.0 | And she was like, name the time and the place. |
1:39.0 | So this episode is really great. |
1:41.0 | We talked for over two hours. There is a much longer version of this |
1:45.7 | episode on the Patreon. Her and I did just really actually Patreon exclusive stuff. |
1:52.2 | There's a little Q&A and a couple extra tangents that I saved for the |
1:55.9 | Patreon. So if you are a fan of Jillian, she is wonderful and you are interested in that, you can |
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