The Brand and Sherry Oddcast, sponsored by Fellowship Home Loans.

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Greetings to you and welcome. We're so glad you're listening. Really, truly honored.

Producer Sherry is here, too.

Said this before, and it might not sound real, but I promise you it is. If we knew you were the only one

listening, we would do the same show. That's very true. We might cater it to your interest a little

more if you're like, like more knitting news or something

yeah we'd say your name yeah we would just be like well hey amy but that'd be the only difference

yeah i mean we're really honored you're listening that's all we're trying to say so every single

time when i go out and talk about one of the books I wrote called unoffendable so it's about

forgiveness and every time I go out and talk about it there are certain people that get it

immediately like within five minutes and me like yep I'm there I get it and those people are addicts

people who have been through recovery they'll come up to me immediately. He's like, yep, yep, yep, yep.

I don't have to convince him of anything.

Other people like, I don't know about this.

I don't know.

We're supposed to forgive these people.

What about those people?

Now, once you hit rock bottom, the superiority kind of goes away.

It is a superiority.

I don't think. And the desperation. Because that's part of the 12 steps.

I mean, you've got to be desperate.

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