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The Holy Post

Episode 130: Churchless with Guest David Kinnaman!

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

Skyejethani, Society & Culture, Philvischer, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, 226012, Christiantaylor, Atheism, Veggietales

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2014

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

David Kinnaman, president of the Barna Group and America’s foremost Christian pollster, joins Phil and Drew Dyck to talk about his new book Churchless: Understanding Today's Unchurched and How to Connect With Them.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there, it's Phil Vescher. Welcome back to the show. I am here with Drew Dick. Hi, Phil.

0:10.0

Hi Drew. How are you? Good. And on my iPad appearing live from where you, David?

0:17.0

California. Live from California. Now that's West, right? Yes, well depending where you are today.

0:24.0

But yeah, and it's the Los Angeles area. David from the Los Angeles area, the greater, we can't be any more specific in that.

0:33.0

Because his life may be in danger. So we can, okay, I'm going to do the theme song. This is David Kinteman. He's the president. Are you the president of the Barnard Group?

0:42.0

Yes. Is it King? Supreme emperor usually. Supreme emperor of the Barnard Group. The poster. He is the, what, what like glowing?

0:53.0

Glowing over statements. Could we use to describe your position in American culture? Like the supreme, the premier religious poster of our generation?

1:05.0

How about like the most quotable? Oh, that's good. I quoted them a lot. The most quotable poster or the most quotable person?

1:13.0

I'd say person.

1:17.0

Okay, I'm singing the theme song. You know you've been on the show before, right? Do you remember that?

1:21.0

Yeah, but the theme song is new, I think. It might be. I don't know. I don't remember. It was a while ago. It was before we did video because we do video now.

1:28.0

Hey, it's a podcast. What do you know? Hey, it's a podcast. And we got video. Hey, it's a podcast. So lend an ear. The Phil Vistia podcast starts right here.

1:37.0

We won't talk to sky because he's not here. We've got Drew Dick and we've got David Kinteman, who's not very near.

1:48.0

He's in LA, which is weird. Hey, it's a podcast. So lend an ear. The Phil Vistia podcast starts right here. The Phil Vistia podcast starts right here.

1:59.0

All right, someday we'll have to tell you the story of how that theme song saved someone's life. For you on the show when we read that.

2:06.0

No, save someone's life. Wow. I'll never make fun of it again.

2:13.0

Yeah, you don't want it. You want to hear it because you're so intrigued now. Yeah, you're so. Yeah. Okay. I'm on pins and needle.

2:18.0

It was a husband and wife that went on a long bike trip. They thought it was like a 40 mile bike ride, but they googled it wrong.

2:25.0

And it ended up being like 75 miles or something. And they said the last 30 miles were like uphill.

2:32.0

85 degree heat and they ran out of water and they're in the middle of nowhere. And there's nowhere to get water.

2:39.0

And the wife said the only way she got through it was by singing the Phil Vistia podcast theme song over and over in her head in the rhythm of her pedaling.

2:49.0

And it kept her going. Oh, hey, it's a podcast. What do you know over and over for 30 miles in the heat.

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