Hey guys, today on the podcast. I am here with my friend Joseph. He is an amazing man of God.

I don't know if you all have heard about it, but I'm pretty sure. Pretty sure you have.

Some people are like, well, I don't like heavy music.

It's, I love lyrics.

And these guys are legit.

Seventh-day slumber has been killing it for 20.

25 years.

25 years.

I remember when I got saved, I told you I was listening to it.

And then really focusing on lyrics, I love what you sing. I love what you bring because I'm a, I write. I like, I love writing. So it's a big deal to me. But man, we need to bring the reality of the music back. The suns of darkness shouldn't shine brighter than the suns of light. And you guys are doing it, man.

You're killing it. I love it. It's like a family affair too. And we'll get into that. Man, what really struck me the most when I met you, and it was over the phone. You know, we were going to do the SXXW and I was going to be there with you guys. And I know you were catching a little bit of flak and that's all right. We should catch flack.

I always say

if you don't get resistance you're probably going the same way the devil is yeah so we should

get some resistance sold that from you by the way i used it yeah it's so good but um what your testimony

rocked me man you know because you were talking about texas and what happened to you if you don't mind

could you like could you share your testimony if you're good with that?

Yeah.

Well, I was, I was raised in Texas.

I was born in California in Victorville, California, but raised in Texas.

But, you know, I was raised by a mom who loved me, but I didn't have a dad in the home.

And my dad used to beat all my mom. I remember him from when I was like three and a half, four years old, but not for

the right reasons. I remember him beating on my mom. That was the last memory of my dad that I had

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