The Hello and

welcome to the Thinking El-Sat Podcast in San Francisco. I'm Nathan Fox.

With me in Washington, D.C. is Ben Olson. How you doing Ben?

Good. The weather is great here today, so I'm excited.

Awesome. We've also got in rainy Montreal, Graham Blake.

Graham, how are you?

Good. Thanks for having me.

Does it rain a lot in Montreal in the summertime?

Actually, no, this is highly unusual. It's usually just nice and sunny every day.

Oh wow. Good day to be inside in a podcast.

Yeah, perfect.

Hey so have you guys met before Graham and Ben,

do you guys know each other?

Yeah, we talked on the phone.

Yeah, I was trying to figure that out, actually, Graham.

Did I reach out to you or did you reach out to me? I can't remember how we started communicating.

I think you reached out to me actually. I was I knew who you were and then I think you emailed me either you found my email course or the explanations or something.

Maybe it was Reddit.

I might have mentioned you in like this, I was doing this thing on Reddit of like independent

outside courses.

I forget why but you sent me an email and then we did a phone call.

Yeah.

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