Episode 129, Talking about Existence (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

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Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, and Rose de Castellane

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4.8 • 604 Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2024

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

‘The clouds are grey, the sun obscured and you are walking through the countryside in the overcast of winter. Passing from field to woodland, the trees shed coats of frosty bark to celebrate the passing of another icy season. It feels too early for spring, but echoes of swallows in the canopies sing songs of new beginnings. You pause to catch a glimpse of your woodland companions. With effortless precision, your eyes track the birds as they zip between empty branches and, combining countless neurons, you forecast the birds’ trajectory each time they fall out of view.

You walk on, emerging from the trees, and return to the open fields. You look back, appreciate the woods and see a river flowing into the trees from the east. Where does the river begin? Escaping the clouds, the sun will soon be free of the sky altogether; if you want to discover the river’s source, you had better get walking.’

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0:00.0	Pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, pan, scicast.
0:08.1	Part two, further analysis and discussion.
0:25.8	We've been speaking about philosophers on God talking about existence available in all good bookshops for a very modest.
0:32.4	10 pounds, 10 dollars, 10 euros.
0:34.5	Don't check the currency transfer rate on those.
0:38.8	It's about the same in whatever country you're residing in.
0:42.5	In that last moment, we were speaking about some of the arguments in the book for why we should
0:47.5	take the question of God's existence seriously.
0:50.2	We then looked at the debate between Dawkins and Swinburne in the book on simplicity.
0:56.7	Then we began thinking about some of the theistic arguments in the text, and specifically,
1:00.5	we're looking at Cragen's Our Paws, Exchange on whether or not Islam had a morally defective concept of God.
1:08.5	Before we get into some of the new atheists' arguments against theism, we want to
1:12.6	introduce Eugene Nagasauer's Problem of Evil for atheists, which he's got a book coming out
1:17.8	on the topic this year, which is brilliant.
1:20.1	It's going to be free to access as well.
1:22.2	We love free stuff.
1:22.9	Worth giving a search.
1:25.0	He's obviously been on the show before he's been on our Christianity audio book as well.
1:29.7	A great friend of the show who's funded, Mystery of Existence show, which was the launch in essence for this book too.
1:36.6	Big love out to Eugene. His argument goes something like this. He thinks that theists and atheists are typically existential optimists. That is, they think
1:46.4	the world is, on the whole, a good place and they're happy and pleased to be alive. However,
1:52.1	they also believe in evolution by natural selection, which necessitates the suffering of countless
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