Episode 128 | Trump White House PANICS after DISASTER NEWS Leaks

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.8 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Mission accomplished? Retired United States Army Lieutenant General, Mark Hertling, joins It’s Complicated to assess whether Trump’s military strikes in Iran achieved their objective, or whether we have opened a Pandora’s box. Plus, will the administration be successful in its efforts to politicize the military and turn them on the people they are sworn to protect? Tune in and find out!Follow Mark on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/markhertling.bsky.social Asha Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicatedFollow Asha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/asharangappa.bsky.socialFollow Renato on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/renatomariotti.bsky.socialFollow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalAFMTN?sub_confirmation=1 Legal AF Substack: https://substack.com/@legalaf Follow Legal AF on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/legalafmtn.bsky.social Follow Michael Popok on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mspopok.bsky.social Subscribe to the Legal AF by MeidasTouch podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/legal-af-by-meidastouch/id1580828595 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	So, Renato, were Trump's military strikes in Iran justified?
0:05.1	It's complicated.
0:10.2	I'm Asha Rangapa. I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former FBI special
0:16.2	agent, and I'm a legal and national security analyst. And I'm Renato Marieti. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.
0:25.8	And I'm Mark Hurtling. I was a soldier for four decades. My last job was in U.S. Army Europe, which included the Levant at the time.
0:33.8	And I'm a student of national security and leadership.
0:36.8	And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a soundbite or a skeet.
0:45.8	So we are very excited today.
0:49.6	I feel like we have scored, I don't know, this is not the right metaphor right now.
0:55.1	I was gonna say we've scored a coup,
0:56.3	but you know, under the circumstances.
0:59.0	But we do have an expert.
1:00.5	We have General Mark Hurtling.
1:01.9	General, thank you so much for being with us.
1:04.0	We're so excited to get your insight on what's going on.
1:07.7	You're very welcome, and I'm pleased to join both of you, but please call me Mark.
1:12.3	Or if you don't, I'll start calling both of your counselor, okay?
1:16.6	Okay, fair enough.
1:19.3	So a lot has been unfolding since last week, and maybe we can just start with what was your reaction, I guess, when you first learned that
1:32.7	we had basically joined Israel in engaging in these strikes?
1:38.3	What were the initial thoughts that went through your mind?
1:41.4	Well, I think the first thing I thought of was, okay, what is, first of all, the plan?
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