Episode 126: Minisode - The Murder of Donald Ramsay

Life After MLM

Roberta Blevins

Society & Culture, Education

4.4 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 October 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Happy October! All month long we will be sharing MLM Horror stories, from creepy cults to literal murder. Join us every Sunday with bonus episodes on Wednesday! *CW: This episode talks about a murder, describes crime scenes and the state of the victims involved. There are also mentions of mental health, outrageous health claims, mental illness and suicide. Please use discretion when listening.* Back in 1999, a supplement was created that claimed to be the cure for mental illness called EMPower Plus. It had rave reviews by devotees, and even became the star in an MLM product lineup. But when the Ramsay family decided to wean their son off his medication, in favor of a megadose of this miracle "cure all" vitamin, they never expected the tragic outcome. Have a story to share? Email me! [email protected] Show Notes: EMPower Plus Q96 vs Thrivous Clarity - https://thrivous.com/blogs/views/99474945-q-sciences-empowerplus-q96-vs-thrivous-clarity Q Max Premium - https://qsciences.com/products/q-max-premium "Crazy Pills" A Utah multilevel-marketing company has a multivitamin to "fix" your mental illness - https://www.cityweekly.net/utah/crazy-pills/Content?oid=2305592 Mentally ill killer tried vitamin therapy, court told - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/mentally-ill-killer-tried-vitamin-therapy-court-told-1.1141861 Mentally ill man not criminally responsible for murdering father - https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/mentally-ill-man-not-criminally-responsible-for-murdering-father-1.1147589 The Epicenter For Get-Rich-Quick Schemes - https://economichardship.org/2015/06/how-utah-became-a-bizarre-blissful-epicenter-for-get-rich-quick-schemes/ The Lawyers, Court and family agree Jordan Ramsay is Not Criminally Responsible, Review Board will decide his fate - http://www.timslaw.ca/tag/donald-ramsay/ Truth in Advertising - Q Sciences - https://truthinadvertising.org/articles/q-sciences/ DSSRC refers Q Sciences to FTC/AG - https://bbbprograms.org/media-center/newsroom/q-sciences-health-and-earnings-claims North Vancouver man believed his father was 'supernatural entity' - https://www.nsnews.com/local-news/north-vancouver-man-believed-his-father-was-supernatural-entity-2916584 Science Says: Q Sciences Supplements Do More Harm Than Good - https://www.brittanymorgon.com/blog/q-sciences-supplements-do-more-harm-than-good Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9 Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/ Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb How can you help? Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/ Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/ Not in the U.S.? Go here: https://www.ftc.gov/policy/international/competition-consumer-protection-authorities-worldwide Support the Podcast! Join the Patreon! - https://www.patreon.com/robertablevins Buy me a Taco and leave a note! 🌮💖 - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robertablevins Follow on TikTok for Anti MLM content, education, and humor! - https://www.tiktok.com/@bertalikewhoa Follow on Instagram for visual show notes, FAQ, and updates! - https://www.instagram.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast/ Like on Facebook and join our show fan page to jump in on the conversation! - https://www.facebook.com/lifeaftermlmpodcast *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey, I'm Robert of Lovins, and this is Life After Emolim, a podcast where we worked
0:10.0	and the stigma failure in an industry systemically designed for you to fail.
0:15.0	Join us as we dive into the real life stories of survivors, experts, and advocates
0:21.0	to debunk the common myths and fallacies of colts, scams, and multi-level marketing.
0:27.0	A quick content warning. This episode deals with triggering topics including mental health, narcissism, examples of manipulation, gas lighting, and high demand control.
0:43.0	Please use discretion when listening.
0:45.0	Hey, Humbots and Humbrows.
0:47.0	Welcome to another bonus episode for this Halloween season.
0:52.0	Welcome back to Life After Emma Lem. for this
0:55.0	Halloween season.
0:56.0	I have been researching this story probably off and on
0:58.0	for about the past week,
1:00.0	but it came up last year, but it came up last year in some research and I was like I got to remember this.
1:07.4	So today we are talking about the murder of Donald Ramsey and I want to let you know before we start that today's story is
1:15.2	tragic and this is a trigger warning that this episode not only talks about a
1:20.0	murder but describes crime scenes and the state of the victims involved.
1:25.7	There are also mentions of suicide in this episode as well.
1:28.9	It is a very heavy episode with a very heavy emphasis on mental health,
1:34.3	outrageous health claims, mental illness in crisis,
1:38.2	and missing a lot of red flags that unfortunately had a tragically fatal ending.
1:43.2	So like I said, I first heard about this story
1:45.8	while I was researching about Q Sciences last fall,
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