Episode 126: Jules Gill-Peterson
Gender Reveal
Tuck Woodstock
4.8 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 4 July 2022
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Tuck speaks with historian and writer Jules Gill-Peterson (she/her). Topics include:
- Do cis people exist?
- Why the United States hates children
- The very unequal histories of trans men and trans women
- How both sides of the trans youth debate are failing trans kids
- Plus: Patti Harrison, FFS @ CVS, and “If this is what being an ally is, I am an enemy.”
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Associate Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional Music: “Shepman” by Blue Dot Sessions
Sponsors: Enby (promo code: GenderReveal)
Transcript
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| 0:47.3 | Welcome to GenderReveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to understanding |
| 0:52.1 | what the hell gender is. I'm your host and resident gender detective, Tuckwoodstock. |
| 1:06.0 | Hey everyone, hope you're all hanging in there. This week on the show, I am absolutely thrilled |
| 1:11.7 | to share my conversation with historian and writer Jules Gilpeterson. If you've heard Jules |
| 1:17.1 | speak before, you already know you're in for a treat, and in this episode we talk about whether |
| 1:22.8 | cis people exist. Oh my god, does my birth certificate align with my deep rooted sense? No one does |
| 1:30.1 | that? Why neither side of the trans kids debate are actually getting it right? And why trans people |
| 1:36.4 | deserve rights and healthcare and also lots and lots of money? And the solution to the suffering |
| 1:43.6 | of trans people is not for me personally to be paid well, right? It's for everyone to be given |
| 1:48.2 | faces on demand, right? But in the meantime, when we're working towards that, like I also need to |
| 1:53.5 | pay for my face. I also want to do an unpaid and unsolicited ad for the podcast death panel here, |
| 2:00.7 | because it's great generally, but also because Jules recorded a death panel episode on the same day |
| 2:06.8 | that she recorded this interview with us and that death panel episode is already out and in it, |
| 2:12.4 | she and the rest of the panel do a really excellent job breaking down all of the issues with Emily |
| 2:17.4 | whoever's New York Times magazine story, the one about the new WPATH standards and whether it's like |
| 2:23.2 | simply too easy for good's to transition these days. And even if you've already heard critiques |
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