Episode 1250: Cautious Clay
The RELEVANT Podcast
RELEVANT Magazine
4.6 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 16 May 2025
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
Today we’re joined by genre-defying artist Cautious Clay, who tells us about the process behind his new album, The Hours: Morning! Plus, in RELEVANT Buzz, two Christian hits have broken into the Billboard Hot 100 for the first time in over a decade, and we talk about why Brandon Lake and Forrest Frank are redefining industry momentum. Plus we have the notable news from all the TV up-fronts happening this week, and some surprising legislation that got filed this week. Plus, the crew reflects on the podcast’s 20th anniversary, the one-sided "rivalry" we had with Joel Osteen in the early years, and Jesse still being bitter about Osteen standing us up at the Nik Wallenda high wire stunt. And at the end of the show, the crew plays another round of One Has to Go—play along!
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| 0:00.0 | It's episode 1250. Oh, I like round numbers. One thousand 250. Oh, my goodness. It's a relevant podcast here in Orlando. I'm your host, Cameron Strang, and joining me from Loverland, Virginia. It's Jesse Carey. Hello, hello. From Nashville, our managing editor downtown Emily Brown. |
| 0:20.8 | Hey, y'all. |
| 0:21.5 | In L.A., it's artist-producer Mogul. |
| 0:24.2 | Marty. |
| 0:24.8 | What up? |
| 0:26.1 | 1,250. |
| 0:28.5 | That's unbelievable. |
| 0:29.5 | Pretty amazing. |
| 0:30.9 | Yeah, it's quite a number. |
| 0:33.5 | Sneaks up on you. |
| 0:34.0 | Our 20th anniversary is in August, so it sneaks up on you. |
| 0:39.4 | 25th anniversary. Orth anniversary of the podcast 20th anniversary of the podcast 25th anniversary of relevant is the summer |
| 0:43.8 | 20th anniversary of the podcast is in august so what's the most viewed podcast episode so far on this channel |
| 0:51.2 | i've no absolutely no you guys look that up or no? |
| 0:55.2 | No. |
| 0:55.9 | Okay. |
| 1:00.0 | Like, honestly, 20 years of podcast, we've visited so many different hosts over the years. |
| 1:00.3 | I know, I know. |
| 1:01.7 | Like, it's like, where's the data? |
| 1:02.2 | I don't know. |
| 1:05.7 | Well, even just the technology, how it's evolved since that. |
| 1:06.3 | I mean... Do you remember, until, for the first 10 years, the only way you could get download numbers is to look on our server logs to see how many downloads the MP3 file had. And then they would say like, |
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