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I get the impression that if Jesus had an iPhone, he wouldn't be looking at it while I was talking to him.

Don't you get that impression?

I do.

Like he's really dialed out, no pun intended, but he's like, like.

Focus, super focused on people.

Yeah.

And so I don't generally look at my phone when I'm talking to people,

but I'm not trying to pat myself in the back for that because I'm not always dialed in.

But to be totally present and totally listening to somebody is very Jesus-like.

He is there.

And we're not so good at that.

We can get better at it. And I have noticed that among people I really respect who are mature, that's the way they are, man. Like, we're having a conversation. They are dialed in on what I'm saying. And I want to get better at that.

Question. Are you a disorganized person? Well, I am too, okay?

So I don't want you to feel bad about this.

I saw this list as like the seven organized tips of the things you need to know to be organized. And I looked at it and for the first time in my life, you know what?

What?

I realized I am going to go because I used to have hope.

I used to have hope that I'll find that trapper keeper. Yeah, I was going to say I've seen your hope.

Like you'll get some stickies.

Some new app or something.

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