Good evening and welcome to T.C. and Jake.

Howdy folks, welcome to It's Just Banter. I'm T.C. Fleming here with Jake Kemp.

Jake, happy Sunday. Indeed. Indeed.

What was the message from your pastor this morning?

You got to have a fall guy.

Got to have a fall guy.

Yeah, I don't know. So I haven't spent a ton of time thinking about what we're going to do on today's show but I check my notes and I've got a lot of stuff yeah how much stuff you got a couple things nice did you see, so you've, you've, you've spent some amount of attention on my fascination with soft white underbelly, maybe even have arrived at it independently,

know some other people to watch it. Is this accurate? Am I describing this correctly?

Remind me withbell YouTube channel?

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm familiar. What is it again?

It's a guy that I believe he was like in advertising, like that he would make commercials or like, I think he did photography for advertising and felt that that was selling his soul and so he wanted to use his skills for good and just started like filming bums being like so how'd you get into heroin yeah and uh it's just it's blown up it's a big thing a lot of people have heard about it and so now it kind of branches out. There's three different ones with

Epstein survivors. I haven't watched those yet, but I'd like to. And one of the Epstein survivors,

incidentally, is the one I'd like to talk with you about today, are one of the Epstein survivor's

husbands. So a husband of the Epstein survivor that was on there, when he was in, like growing up, he knew,

I don't remember how he said the last name.

It spelled C-A-S-C-I-O.

Frank Cascio, Cascio, I don't know.

Frank Italian guy was friends with this dude growing up.

And Frank, I think was a hotel manager at a hotel where Michael Jackson often stayed in New York.

And through that became like, you know, there's lots of things referring to Frank's family is Michael's second family.

And so Frank is kind of like taken over Michael Jackson shit.

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