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As a long time foreign correspondent, I've worked in lots of places, but nowhere is important to the world as China.

I'm Jane Perlase, former Beijing Bureau Chief for the New York Times.

On face-off, the U.S. versus China will explore what's critical to this important global relationship.

Trump and Xi Jinping, AI, TikTok, and even Hollywood.

New episodes of Face Off are available now, wherever you get your podcasts.

Welcome to the Age of Napoleon. Welcome to the Age of Napoleon.

Episode 123, Heroes and Rebels.

Thanks for joining me.

As always, I'd like to start by thanking our Patreon supporters.

Without your help, none of this would be possible.

And as always, I'd like to invite the rest of you to join us on Patreon. I feel we've really

gotten into a good groove with the last few bonus episodes. They have been a lot of fun for me,

and the feedback from the Patreon listeners has been very positive.

I've had several people tell me they actually enjoy the bonus episodes more than the main narrative.

So, if you can spare $2 a month, come join us. I think you'll be glad you did.

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