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Gender Reveal

Episode 120: Jo Krishnakumar

Gender Reveal

Tuck Woodstock

Lgbtq, Documentary, Queer, Personal Journals, Gender, Nonbinary, Society & Culture, Genderqueer, Transgender, Trans

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Tuck speaks with writer and researcher Jo Krishnakumar (they/them). (CW: anti-trans violence 37-42) Topics include:

  • The neurodivergent need to take your pain and put it into ~projects~
  • How casteism continues to impact queer and trans spaces
  • Reimagining “the closet” as a cave, a balcony, or a nest
  • How different trans communities interact in India
  • Plus: Googling "Am I gay?”

This Week in Gender: New study shows that trans kids stay trans. (Riley MacLeod weighs in.)

Find Jo (and Almaarii and Transform) at waytojo.com.

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Find episode transcripts and starter packs for new listeners at genderpodcast.com. We’re also on Twitter and Instagram @gendereveal.

Associate Producer: Ozzy Llinas Goodman
Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional Music: “Vela Vela” by Blue Dot Sessions
Sponsors: Bistitchual & Queer Candle Co (promo code: GENDER10)

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Bystitual Yarn Shop offers a wide range of beautiful queer and or Canadian indie dyed yarn and handmade accessories.

0:06.2

They also offer knitting and crochet zoom classes so you can join from anywhere in the world.

0:10.9

Visit them in person on a net street in Toronto or online at bystitual.ca.

0:15.8

They ship internationally and offer free shipping on orders over $100.

0:30.0

Welcome to Gender Reveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to understanding what the hell gender is.

0:42.0

I'm your host and resident gender detective, Tuckwood Stock.

0:54.0

Hey everyone, hope you're all hanging in there.

0:57.0

This week on the show, I'm excited to share my conversation with Joe, Krishna Kumar.

1:01.0

Ozzy and I learned about Joe through the Center for Applied Transgender Studies

1:05.0

and we're super interested in learning more about the work they do at the intersections of gender, sexuality, sex work, anticastism, and more.

1:13.0

In our chat, we talked about reimagining the closet through art, the way that gender and queerness and our access to those things vary in different countries.

1:21.0

I just don't think enough white cis queer people know people from other countries and how they experience their queerness.

1:31.0

And about how ADHD has a starting way to many projects.

1:35.0

And I'm only 4-11 in height. I'm a very small person to be doing so many things.

1:41.0

Before we get to that, just a reminder that we have new merch in the store this month, including a take on the classic phrase queer as infuck you,

1:49.0

and a stunningly gorgeous new design by our friend Ariana Martinez that says, trans and disabled solidarity, freedom for everybody.

1:57.0

I really urge you to go look at that design by Ariana. Even if you don't buy it, it's just very beautiful. I want everyone to see it.

2:03.0

That's all at bit.ly slash gender merch. And now it's time for this week in gender.

2:11.0

You may have heard that the academic journal pediatrics recently published the results of a longitudinal study that began in 2013.

2:24.0

This study followed more than 300 trans boys and girls between the ages of three and 12 and found that after five years, more than 97% of those kids were still trans.

2:37.0

Meanwhile, out of the eight kids who did G transition over that five year period, seven of them did so before the age of nine, and only one kid made it as far as using puberty blockers before deciding that they were cis after all.

2:51.0

So to frame it another way, out of the 190 kids who went on puberty blockers or hormones so far over the course of the study, only one later came to identify as cisgender, at least so far.

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