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business no matter what stage you're in. This is a crowd podcast. So let me ask you the hardest question. Okay. You're out hiking and your

daughters are taken. Somebody sees you and snatches your daughters up.

Honest to God, what's going to be your first option?

What are you going to do first, Sam?

You going to dial 911? You can dial me.

I know this is going against everything that you've been taught and raised your entire life and your soul.

I could see it in your face right now.

Because every moral value you've ever been taught, your internal organs right now are saying the police

would take too long and you don't want to say that because you're on the radio and I understand

that Sam so you don't have to say anything because I can see your face right now

And I've seen it on many many people throughout my life and I feel your pain and I care about you.

This is it, possibly the last time I'll ever speak to Casey and I don't know what you're hoping for in

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