Episode 12: Protests And Riots Everywhere, Media Insane, Things Bad, And So On And So Forth

Blocked and Reported

Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal

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🗓️ 2 June 2020

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

There's so much going on that Katie and Jesse are back again, already. In this episode they discuss the protests and riots popping off all over the country in response to George Floyd's horrific death, the media's predictably sloppy handling of some of the complexities of police reform, and the difference between meaningful and performative activism. Should they appoint themselves leaders of the nationwide movement for criminal justice reform? Hard to say. In the patrons-only segment starting at 41:00, the hosts discuss everyone's antifa obsession and why Jesse is so frustrated with the bougie liberal antiracism that is exploding in popularity during this crisis. (CORRECTION: In this episode we wrongly state that Richard Nixon won the 1968 presidential race in a landslide. It was the 1972 race he won quite easily.)

-"The Case for Black Optimism" (Quillette)

-"Police Are Killing Fewer People In Big Cities, But More In Suburban And Rural America" (FiveThirtyEight)

-Samuel Sinyangwe on legislation that might help (Twitter)

-The Fight to Redefine Racism (New Yorker)

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0:00.0	Hey, Katie.
0:02.8	Hey, Jesse.
0:03.8	How's it going?
0:04.8	I'm okay.
0:05.8	Do you ever hate yourself when you're like writing or revising something?
0:09.4	Constantly.
0:10.4	That is the only emotional experience when I'm when I'm working.
0:13.4	Yeah.
0:14.4	I thought you were just going to say that's the only emotional experience, which would
0:16.8	have been a whole other thing.
0:17.8	It's true, actually.
0:18.8	It depends on the day, but I'd say three weeks out of them out of the month.
0:23.2	I'm finishing up a book and I'm sort of entering the stage where it's just like rereading
0:27.4	what you've written over and over and over and over making small edits, trying to figure
0:31.1	out what to change, what to keep.
0:32.3	And like, it just makes me hate myself.
0:34.5	Like, don't get me wrong.
0:35.5	I think it'll be a good book and I'm very lucky to have a great editor, but being forced
0:40.6	to read your own writing over and over is torture.
0:44.0	It's horrible.
0:45.0	It's a little bit like being forced to listen to your voice over and over like when you're
0:48.6	editing a podcast, just absolute torture.
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