Part 2

Greetings, dear listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg on another edition of the Remnant Podcast.

I thought I was going to put a little more distance between us and the Matt Kuntneti

conservative geek-out episode from two episodes ago, particularly in the wake of the trade

Wong Fest that I did in the last podcast. But I had a permanent invitation to my longtime friend

and sort of guru on lots of things, Steve Hayward. And he was in town, so we decided to do it. And

besides he has apparently some issues with some of the things we talked about in the past.

I'm here today just with Jack Butler. Jack, you actually know Steve on your own, right?

Yes, before I started working here, I, Steve Hayward randomly posted something about the Progressive

Rock Band King Crimson and their 1969 album in the Court of the Crimson King, which is distinguished

for this giant red face that's clearly in distress. And Steve Hayward was a big fan of them,

and I just out of the blue emailed him. I don't know how I got his email, but he was shocked that

I think it was 19 at the time that a 19-year-old knew something about it. An album that came out in 1969

and I met him in DC subsequently and I don't know, for some reason he's fond of me. I think

it's entirely due to the music, so that's nothing to do with my charming personality.

Well, that's pretty obvious. But, uh, uh, now Steve is one of these guys, the conservative

movement can use a hell lot more of, he actually cares about sort of bringing up next generation,

young people, appointing them in the right direction about what to read, and he's an all-around

really great and decent guy. I need sort of a happy warrior, which I think is a really

important thing to be. So anyway, coming up next is my conversation with Steve Hayward. We'll see

all it goes. But first, I want to talk to you about one of our new sponsors this week, because

I'm really psyched to have them. It's the, uh, the new book, Scalia Speaks, Reflections on Law,

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