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version of these episodes. Unbroken and ad free. This episode and I would anticipate some others are going to be somewhat extended with some additional conversation that was cut out for this public release. I want to warn you that this interview unlike most of our episodes does not have a text at its foundation. So it's kind of like our past episode 73. Why do philosophy? We discussed what philosophy is why we think it's worth our time a very foundational episode. Well this is something that we're going to be going to do.

Well this is similar but has to do with songwriting. But of course since I'm the only one of the hosts that really does a lot of songwriting is just me and Wes Allen came on for some moral support and good contributions.

And then two of my musical idols Jonathan and Victor from the Great Band of Campro Van Beethoven. We're both super smart. I think you're really going to like this. However just as with the regular episode there was some preparation involved and you may get slightly more out of the interview.

If you look at the topic announcement post on the partially examined life dot com blog. Thanks and enjoy the show.

You're listening to the partially examined life a philosophy podcast by some guys who had one point set on doing philosophy for living but then thought better of it. Our question for episode 118 is something like what existential concerns are involved in songwriting style and techniques.

That is a convoluted question. We have two guests best known for their involvement in the band campro Van Beethoven. For more information please go to partially examined life dot com. This is Mark Linson Meyer speaking to you from Madison, Wisconsin.

This is Wes Allen and Boston, Massachusetts. This is Jonathan Segal. I'm in Stockholm, Sweden. This is Victor Krumanochern on San Francisco, California.

Well so excellent to have both of you here. We're technologically so advanced that we can be all over the world and have this podcast.

So this grew out of Jonathan being on our episode on show power and if folks are just tuning in because they are campro Van fans and are like why are these other people talking. Well that's the format. Sorry.

That's a good thing. You don't want us talking. This is actually exactly what we would be saying on stage between songs but we didn't have the time.

It folks are just fans of campro Van. Hopefully you know what I thought getting Jonathan on here last time that was like a big star get but then I tell people and unless there are age or older.

They don't have no reference. So I'm sure you guys get quite enough of that. But yeah, even less known are the fact that both of you have a whole lot of really freaking awesome solo records.

Jonathan and I ran a label starting in about 1993. Yeah, that's right. And we did. I don't know. I've done eight or nine. It said nine in your press. Okay. It's always hard to count them. The prep in the prep.

The prep in Mrs. Miller count is a solo album. It's kind of half a solo album but it's not really that really was a collaboration. So yeah, I guess it's nine. That's correct. And Jonathan is done.

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