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Thomas, let's finish out this police series.

What do you want to talk about today?

I think Joseph Wamba is on the menu.

Yeah, I marked out Joseph Wamba for a dedicated episode.

Because I think he's important.

I, he's still alive, I think.

He's got to be very elderly now.

Well, he's got to be around 90.

He was very much a documentary, though, of the period in which we're talking about when

it was in, when police, modern policing was very much in transition. And when arguably

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