Welcome to the Jewelry District, a podcast by J.C.K. brought to you by the De Beers Institute of Diamonds.

Today, Rob Bates and Victoria Gamalski talk with Vanessa Fernandez, jewelry designer and bench jeweler of Vanessa Fernandez jewelry.

Hey, everyone.

Welcome to the jewelry district.

This is Victoria Gamelski, editor-in-chief of JCPay and JCP Online.com, calling in from Los Angeles.

And I'm with.

Rob Bates, news director of JCPay and JCPonline.com, calling in from New York City.

How are you doing?

I'm good.

I'm good.

It's the week after Tucson, I'm still got a little bit of a gemstone hangover, a good kind of hangover. I got back

over the weekend and saw a lot of, you know, a lot of great stones, a lot of great jewelers.

It wasn't, you know, I feel like now I'm saying this, I have to tee up that we do have a

wonderful designer that I happen to meet up with for the first time in person in Tucson. And we were chatting before we started recording. And one of my

takeaways was that there wasn't like a huge find or a huge news about a new deposit or something so

exciting that does occasionally happen in Tucson. It's rare. Most years, I think, are a little hit or miss with

newness. But there were some, they weren't new stones,

but people were newly excited about them. And I'm really looking forward to talking to her about what she saw. And so that is coming towards the end of this podcast, our Tucson wrapup.

But it was a good nonetheless. The mood good. The mood was. The mood was pretty good. I think,

I don't think it was sort of as big a show for people as maybe last

year was or, or the year before. But a lot of people I talked to had good shows, good sales, good

vibes, lots of, you know, bulgrey was there. Tiffany was there. All the major houses, of course,

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