It's episode 1110, and it's a Roland podcast here in Orlando, I'm your host, Cameron Strang,

and joining me from Loverland, Virginia, it's Jesse Carey.

Hello, hello, from Nashville, Tennessee, artist, producer, mogul, Derek Miner.

What up, don't just down the road there are managing editor downtown Emily Brown.

Hey, y'all. Hey, and Marty is on an airplane right now.

So he's not going to be joining us on today's show.

So he can use the Wi-Fi.

All right, I don't think we want to hear what's the excuse.

I want to see what people around him would, you know, like if he's just talking full volume on a podcast,

you know, on an airplane, you know,

that actually would be pretty interesting.

And like, do you want some pretzels?

There's enough.

Like I feel like for a while, there was like a lot of gimmick podcasts.

I feel like that's tacked back a little, you know what I mean?

But it's what it would be like, well, like smartless is an example of like gimmick podcasts.

It's like rehost and one of them brings a guest, but doesn't tell the other host who the guest is.

So they have to prepare or it was like, Pete Holmes, like back in the day, it was like, you made it weird.

And it was like, all right, tell me how so and so you make it weird.

You know what I mean?

There was always some little gimmick or it's like, you know, this is us in the back of a tour van or whatever, right?

There was never an airplane pod, you know, where I feel like air pod.

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