Welcome to the jewelry district, a podcast by J.C.K. brought to you by the De Beers Institute.

Today, Rob Bates and Victoria Gamalski talk with Tom Chatham, chairman of the board of Chatham Created Gems.

Hey, everyone, welcome to the jewelry district.

This is Victoria Gimelski, editor-in-chief of JCPay and JCP Online.com, calling in from Los Angeles, and I'm with.

Rob Bates, news director of J-CK and JCP online.com, calling in from New York City once again at the JCP

World Headquarters. I love it when you say that. I get this impression of a very tall building.

How are you doing, okay? I'm doing all right. I get this impression of a very tall building. How are you doing?

Okay? I'm doing all right. I still am dealing with, I'm sure you can hear in my voice a raging

sinus infection, but I just got prescribed my third round of meds that I'm about to start and I'm

feeling optimistic. So I guess optimism is a good thing. Yeah, I was in Miami last

week for the sort of start of art Basel with Cartier for its time unlimited exhibition. I briefly

mentioned in our last podcast. Really, anything Cartier does is usually pretty top notch. And I'm really

glad I went except for the planes. The planes were really kind of a difficult experience

for somebody with sinus pressure. And I'd never had that experience. I don't know if you've ever

been on a plane and had that descent where your ears are trying to adjust to the air pressure.

But people warned me and I sort of blew them off thinking, oh yeah, fine. You know, I've never

really encountered that situation. But holy moly, let me tell you,

it's not fun. Aren't you able to like chew gum? Don't they say chew gum helps? They do,

and I did all that. In the end, what I did on my second plane journey on the return was just to buy

earplugs, literally earplugs to block the ears from experiencing that pressure. And that did the trick. But I hear

everyone's sick all around. Everybody kind of I talked to. So I think it's been one of those years where

everybody comes down with something. Other than that, I mean, it's just getting ready for the holidays.

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