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It's Complicated

Episode 110 | Is the Justice System on the Brink of a New Era?

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.8 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In today's all-new episode, our hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa discuss the conflict of interest surrounding the peculiar case of NYC Mayor Eric Adams, and the larger implications for the entire Department of Justice going forward. Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmedia We’ll explore the recent legal drama surrounding Mayor Adams and unravel the many complexities of this intriguing case—including the appointment of a special prosecutor, and what this means for judicial impartiality. Renato kicks off the show with a breakdown of the surprising decision by Judge Ho, who appointed Paul Clement as special counsel—despite both the prosecution and defense agreeing to dismiss the case. This decision, echoing a past Supreme Court approach, raises serious questions about the role of the court in situations where both parties agree on a matter. Asha reflects on how this unexpected twist upholds the adversarial nature of the U.S. legal system, comparing it to the Supreme Court's practice of inviting the Solicitor General to argue cases where the government isn't directly involved. Our hosts discuss the possibility that Judge Ho might choose to dismiss the charges with prejudice, eliminating any future DOJ prosecutorial leverage. They also highlight the delicate balance judges must maintain in order to ensure impartiality and protect the court’s integrity. We’ll also reflect on historical examples of how the members of the judiciary have mobilized against politically motivated decisions in the past. The Eric Adams saga is but one microcosm of Trump’s new tumultuous legal landscape, where political loyalty overshadows norms. In an era when court decisions and prosecutorial independence are highly politicized, this episode delivers a vital lesson about the significant legal and political upheaval ahead. In an era where judicial decisions and prosecutorial independence are ever more politicized, this episode is a must-listen for understanding the dynamics shaping our governance and liberty. Be sure to join us next week, as we continue to break down the complex legal issues and headlines that can't be confined to simple soundbites, right here on It’s Complicated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:47.0

what the hell is going on in our justice system right now?

0:52.7

It's complicated.

1:00.9

I'm Renata Marietti.

1:05.2

I'm a former federal prosecutor of practicing lawyer and a legal analyst.

1:07.4

And I'm Asha Rangappa.

1:10.0

I teach national security law at Yale University.

1:12.2

I'm a former FBI special agent,

1:17.9

and I'm a legal contributor for ABC News. And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a soundbite or a skeet. Wow, Asha, well, literally, we are recording this on Friday the 21st.

1:29.1

And just recently, just within the last hour or two, Judge Ho, who was overseeing the judge assigned to the Eric Adams indictment, overseeing that criminal case, and was considering the government's motion,

1:48.5

the Justice Department's motion to dismiss that indictment without prejudice for them to bring it

1:55.8

back if Eric Adams doesn't follow their directives on immigration issues and other things.

2:03.0

He, after, you know, in this, of course, being something that Eric Adams desperately wanted,

2:08.7

he has decided to appoint Paul Clement, who was the Solicitor General in the George W. Bush

2:14.8

administration, perhaps best known or if we're arguing, you know, he was

2:21.9

arguing Bush versus Gore before he was in that administration. But definitely a known, I would

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say known critic of Donald Trump's, but with impeccable conservative credentials, appointed him to present the other side.

2:37.0

And the reason I say the other side,

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