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This Wreckage

Episode 11, part 2: The Left's Identity Crisis w/Justin Charles (Teaser)

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Arts, Music

4.2980 Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2018

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Summary

We finish out our discussion on race, identity politics, organizing, and DSA. Then the crew punches left by dragging on socialist thinker Elon Musk.

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0:00.0

All right. Do you guys want to hear a musk quote?

0:03.0

Please. All right, this is musk on Twitter.

0:05.0

There is considerable confusion between wealth as consumption and wealth as

0:11.0

labor allocation.

0:13.2

By latter measure, anyone in government whose budget exceeds $1 billion is a billionaire,

0:19.2

government is the largest corporation. Can anyone unpack that? It's interesting that he's trying

0:26.9

to sort of elevate his status as a capitalist by comparing himself to the government

0:31.0

because I thought libertarians hated the government.

0:34.0

Is he a libertarian though?

0:37.0

Well, okay, perhaps you could continue and we might have some tweets to enlighten us on that subject.

0:42.0

Yeah, perhaps, I mean, we're watching his political evolution in real time.

0:47.1

So now he's starting to get into anti-fata territory here.

0:50.2

He says, socialism versus capitalism is not even the right question.

0:55.6

What really matters is avoiding monopolies that restrict people's freedoms.

1:01.5

Well, monopolies restrict people's freedom.

1:03.7

Apparently they do, yeah.

1:05.7

What kind of monopolies?

1:07.6

He said it's not about socialism versus capitalism.

1:10.7

So monopolies.

1:12.2

But then he says, by the way, I am actually a socialist. Oh, I'm trying to make sense of this.

1:17.6

I think maybe what, like he, I think perhaps he's equating socialism in like the very vulgar sense of like anything the government does.

1:24.3

So maybe he's saying like like public roads restrict freedom just the same way as like Amazon restricts your freedom.

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