This episode 190 in this relevant podcast, here at Back at Orlando, safe and sound, barely.

I'm your host Cameron Strang, and joining me from Loverland, Virginia is Jesse Carey.

Hello, hello.

From Nashville, Tennessee, artist, producer, mogul, Derek Miner.

What up, doh?

His new album is dropping August 25th, everybody pre-order now, save it now.

And back after 18 years in exile from Austin, Texas, author, speaker, podcaster, Jamie Ivey.

Hi guys, I know I've been got a long time.

We have missed you, and you've been gone so long that your face is different now.

What, what, what is helping you see?

Well, I went to the eye doctor, and I haven't been to the eye doctor.

You guys, I don't know if you guys are, well, you all wear glasses.

I don't know about you, Derek, but I haven't been to the eye doctor since 2011,

because I had lacic, and I just thought, huh, what do I need to do?

But the other day in church, I'm 45, I had a hard time seeing my Bible.

And so I went to the eye doctor, she said I could use some readers.

So I actually am trying out, I went over to our friends.

Well, I don't know if they're our friends or not my friends, maybe they're your friends.

Warby Parker, I don't know them.

I don't know, Warby or Parker.

Hey, hey, we were the first podcast they ever advertised on back in 2010,

but I have so many Warby Parker's pairs because of that.

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