This is the Unregistered Podcast, and I'm Thaddeus Russell.

This is a show about ideas, people, and behaviors that are considered inappropriate, out of bounds, or beyond the pale.

The things you're not supposed to talk about if you're a schoolteacher, a college professor, a businessman, a politician,

a parent, a neighbor, or even a podcast host. These are the things you're not supposed to say

or even think if you're a good liberal, a good conservative, or a good citizen. Each week,

I'll interview a person who has something bad to say. They might be a

journalist or a professor. They might be a porn star or a drug dealer. They might just be an

ordinary person with an ordinary job who doesn't care about the rules of polite society.

I'm not interested in breaking the rules just to be a troublemaker. I'm interested in people who break the rules of polite society. I'm not interested in breaking the rules just to be a troublemaker.

I'm interested in people who break the rules of conventional thought and to expand the scope of

what is possible to say in our society. I'm interested in people who make me think.

Imagine if we had the transcript of the collective unconscious of an entire society.

If you were a scholar interested in understanding that society, I think you would be very interested in studying that transcript.

This is what I've been saying for years and years to my students

in regular universities and at Renegade University. Pornography, which now is consumed by

virtually everyone in American society, is that transcript of the collective unconscious,

I believe. My guest this week was the first academic scholar to take seriously this genre, this art form,

this very popular culture that is simultaneously everywhere and nowhere.

This is my interview with Linda Williams.

So I'm in the house, in the Berkeley, sort of lower hills, I guess you would say,

of Linda Williams, a pioneer in, I think,

and many people think in academia for reasons we will discuss. And a hero to many of us in academia

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