Good evening and welcome to TC and Jay. Hello, it's me, T.C. Fleming. Got an episode machine coming to get. We've settled into a bit of a Friday morning rhythm. So I believe this Friday morning you can expect to hear from me again. In the meantime, got a listener, guest, friend, Charlie. How's it going, man? going man hey man I'm good how are you

you want to get that mic all the way over you know talking right into it like that

good yeah yeah I you know the podcast would be better if I just said that before

yeah I wasn't sure if I'd have some sort of headset on or how it was going to operate, but I just got this big bike in my face. I think I should be able to handle it. Yeah, no, it's just us talking. Unless you brought some audio to play. No, no, I did not. Yeah, so a couple months ago, I got real enamored with Mark Ruffalo movies. I think it's called Darkwater? Dark

Water, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Was that big in your field? Was everyone talking about dark water?

I can't say everybody was talking about Darkwater. You know, Mark Ruffalo, obviously, a favorite of most

plaintiff's attorneys for that role perhaps.

But I wouldn't say it was water cooler talk, but we know of it for sure.

Yeah, I was driving around and heard him interviewed on NPR whenever it came out,

which is years ago at this point.

Then I think it got pushed on me on Netflix or something.

I was like, yeah, you know, who doesn't want to watch Mark Rufflow and then it was just I you

know it's a good movie for sure I'm not sure that like deserved Oscars or

anything from the movie making execution it's good it's just it's you know

it's not spectacular but But the, uh, the story is

insane. Um, just, you know, uh, DuPont poisoned all these people. They knew that they were

poisoning them and just made a decision that it kind of made more sense, honestly, to just keep poisoning

them. Uh, the, you know, we about it on the podcast whenever I watched it.

That's how we're sitting here today.

But the thing that I found most damning is that they, it wasn't like a journalist exposed

to this to them.

And then the DuPont people were shocked.

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