So this would be like the equivalent of like you know uh Frank Carlucci or something was in charge of the early 90s and dream team Olympic basketball team.

Essentially, the use of sports is part of this, a larger program like you said of propaganda to essentially I guess instill this sort of like hyper-martial nationalist vision of combat sports and also like you mentioned this kind of hyper-masculity but also to create kind of a farm system to feed young men if not into you know professional sports and

m m m m m m m a into his own private security force and you know to do Christ knows what else

there's no doubt about it. Here's the thing.

I remember the first time I went to Russia

and I was sitting with a bunch of Chechens

and I had never, I didn't even know at this time.

This is my first trip, I didn't even know what much what what much about Russia except what you see in movies

etc was a complete idiot at the time didn't know much about Chechnya. I remember sitting with

the Chechens and one of the one of the first things I remember hearing was, you know, getting

if you walk around in the streets of church, everybody from the boy, little boy,

to the grown man, to the old man, they all know how to fight.

You don't want to fight with any of them, because even the little little boy he'll punch you in the face.

This is something they promote really proud.

Is it very proud of this idea that every man can hold his own, every man can take care of his family.

Another point was, Karim, if you're a guest in my house and my brother wants to kill you, and first thing I'm thinking

in my head is, why on earth would your brother want to kill me?

And if my brother wants to kill you, Karim, he can't kill you because you know, you're a guest in my house,

I would defend you to my death I'm thinking why does

anybody have to die here?