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This episode is a continuation of my conversation with actor Nana Visitor.

No content warnings for this episode.

We begin today with my unexpected reaction to her story.

Well, here we are again.

Here we are.

Here we are.

Thank you.

So, you know, I called you right after the last time we were in this studio talking.

And I said, I've got to tell you that I was, even though that was not the first time I heard the story about your traumatic experience, your rape and kidnapping, I was completely sort of gobsmacked this time. I couldn't even get my thoughts together at all.

It was such a powerful thing that I heard that it actually, I was almost this time unable to

think and I felt all I wanted to do was, you know, basically just take it in and be there and

just keep saying, I'm sorry, and listen. And I couldn't motivate to keep going and asking you

different questions. And it was the first time that's ever happened in that way. What do you think was different for you?

I think this time I took in the details.

It was the first time I think I was so shocked when you told me

that I actually remember almost putting my hands over my ears for part of it

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