Welcome back to It’s Complicated, where we unravel the tangled web of recent developments threatening American democracy. Asha Rangappa is a former FBI special agent who teaches national security law at Yale. Along with renowned attorney and activist George Conway, and Norm Eisen, a CNN legal analyst and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, they explore the weaponization of defamation law and its implications for democracy. Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmedia We’ll kick things off with an in-depth analysis of the recent defamation case involving ABC News and Donald Trump. Many believe the controversial settlement reached by ABC sets a dangerous precedent—inviting more frivolous lawsuits and stifling free speech. The defamation lawsuit, rooted in a misinterpretation of legal terms like "rape" and "sexual abuse," highlights the complex relationship between media reporting and legal standards. Our hosts urge the Press, who play a critical role in defending democracy, to stand firm against intimidation. The trio discusses the challenges posed by the changing dynamics of the media landscape. And Asha stresses the importance of vigilance and critical thinking in an era where misinformation is so rampant. We’ll also explore the broader implications of these defamation lawsuits for the survival of democracy. As Norm warns, the strategic use of legal battles to suppress dissent draws dark parallels to tactics used by authoritarian regimes throughout history.  Asha, George, and Norm underscore the importance of working together to provide support for people targeted by these oppressive legal strategies, which is exactly what Norm’s organization-The State Democracy Defenders-Fund is all about. We’ll wrap things up on a lighter note, as our hosts share their upcoming holiday plans, reflecting on the need for personal time and recharging. So, stay tuned, stay informed, and stay supportive of each other. And we’ll see you next time, on It’s Complicated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices