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I'm just going to pause for reaction there.

He says, wow.

That is what he said.

Oh, dear God.

And these are allegations until proven true.

The podcast, of course, does support Bishop Jakes to the fullest extent. God. And these are allegations until proven true.

The podcast, of course, does support Bishop Jakes to the fullest extent.

Yeah.

If I told, surely I have the story on here before about the one time I had an interaction with Bishop Jakes and his staff.

I don't believe so.

Yes, you certainly have and I forgot.

I'll just put it that way.

Whenever I was at the magazine, my last job, their podcast network, we were launching the network with huge Git, Bishop Jakes, big time.

And, you know, the way, like, he's not like coming into a studio or whatever.

He's connecting on Zoom. But then I don't like Zoom calls. You know, I don't think the audio is very

good. So I'll try and get people to make a recording on their own so we can have something that's

a little bit better. No one ever likes it if you prod them

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