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Newt's World

Episode 1009: Glory, Grief, and the Gavel The Most Dramatic Speaker's Race in a Century

Newt's World

Gingrich 360

Politics, News

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

In January 2023, Kevin McCarthy endured five grueling days and 15 rounds of balloting to win the Speaker's gavel — the most dramatic Speaker's race in a century. John Leganski was at the center of it all. As McCarthy's Deputy Chief of Staff and the youngest floor director in House history, he watched up close as a small band of "Never Kevins" brought the People's House to a standstill. Now he's written the definitive inside account: Glory, Grief, and the Gavel. Leganski joins Newt — himself a former Speaker — for a candid conversation about the "Maybe Kevins" versus the "Never Kevins," the last-minute phone call where President Trump unleashed a private tirade, the emotional moment the gavel was finally won, and how the very coalition that delivered the speakership ultimately destroyed it nine months later.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:09.1

Welcome to New World Podcast on the IHeart Podcast Network.

0:13.7

Congress is technically on its 4th of July recess this week,

0:17.1

but I want to talk about why they left town the way they did

0:19.5

because it tells you almost everything

0:21.3

you need to know about the state of Washington right now. Before the break, the House Republican

0:26.9

majority, narrow as it is, actually adjourned early, not because Democrats blocked them,

0:33.1

because a dozen or so of their own members refused to move forward on the floor until leadership

0:37.7

committed to bringing up election reform and immigration reform. Now, whatever you think about

0:43.6

the specific policy fights, I want you to sit with that for a second. A dozen members of Congress

0:48.9

said essentially, we're not going to keep doing business as usual while the single most basic function of a republic,

0:56.5

knowing that only eligible citizens are deciding our elections, sits unresolved.

1:02.6

I have some sympathy for this kind of stubbornness.

1:05.7

I used to be that stubborn member of Congress myself more than once, and it's usually uncomfortable and usually right.

1:12.5

Here's the backdrop. The Save America Act, legislation that would require documentary proof

1:18.7

of citizenship to register to vote plus photo ID at the polls, passed the House back in February

1:24.7

with a real majority. Straightforward stuff.

1:28.3

If you're a citizen, you should be able to prove it,

1:30.8

the same way you prove it to get on an airplane or open a bank account.

1:35.1

But in June, the Senate failed to pass it.

1:38.1

Failed.

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