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Newt's World

Episode 1007: Where Are Americans Moving — and Why?

Newt's World

Gingrich 360

Politics, News

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Every year, millions of Americans vote with their feet — packing up and crossing state lines in search of something better. But what exactly are they looking for? In this episode, Newt talks with Jack Salmon, research fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, to dig into his new policy brief analyzing 34 million interstate moves between 2018 and 2023. The results challenge some conventional wisdom: cost of living isn't the dominant driver, climate barely registers, and the red-state/blue-state narrative is more complicated than the headlines suggest. What actually predicts where Americans move? Tax burden, housing supply, and economic freedom — including the often-overlooked weight of occupational licensing and regulatory red tape. A data-driven conversation with real implications for every state legislator in America.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:07.8

Welcome to Newts World Podcast on the IHeart Podcast Network.

0:11.8

I want to talk about a number this week that didn't get nearly the attention it deserved

0:16.0

because it tells you more about the state of the country than almost anything happening in

0:21.0

headlines. The June jobs report came in at 57,000 new payroll jobs, 57,000. That's well below

0:30.7

the 129,000, added in May, and it's well below what economists were forecasting. Treasury yields dropped on the news

0:38.8

because Wall Street immediately read it as a sign

0:41.1

the labor market is cooling fast.

0:44.4

Now, I've watched a lot of economic cycles

0:46.4

from a lot of vantage points,

0:48.4

as speaker, as historian,

0:50.7

and frankly, as somebody remembers

0:52.6

what real-stafflation looked like in the late 1970s.

0:56.7

And I want to give you a framework for thinking about this number, because the single jobs

1:00.8

report can be noise, but the trend line behind it is not noise.

1:05.5

Earlier this year, private payroll growth was running at two and a half times the pace we saw all through last year.

1:13.5

Strong numbers. Real momentum. And now, just a few months later, it's cold off enough to spook the bond market.

1:22.2

That kind of whiplash usually means the underlying economy is more fragile than the headline numbers we're letting

1:29.1

on.

1:30.3

Layer inflation on top of it.

1:32.2

The Fed's preferred measure, the price index, was running at 3.5% as of the spring,

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