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Are they still doing those makeover shows? Remember those? Those were like big... Yes, they still do it. Not as much, but yes, those still happen.

I know this is going to sound like Mr. Spiritual or something.

I don't mean to sound that way.

I'm sorry.

Tell us more, Mr. Spiritual.

Ladies and gentlemen, here we go.

Please welcome.

I can't shut off all this music.

Here we go.

Mr. Spiritual. Mr. Spiritual.

What I wanted to say was, can we do,

wouldn't it be cool if we had a makeover show,

but it wasn't about your outsides?

Like, look at this person's character.

I mean, it would be interesting.

I don't know.

I guess it could be faked.

But it just reminded me because I like Dallas Willard a lot. He's a writer who passed away recently, but he talked about

how God wants to do a complete renovation of your personality. And I love that. And it doesn't

mean like, oh, I'm talkative, but now I'm an introvert.

Like, not that, but like the things that make up our motives and how we respond when we're

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