Episode 1005: America 250 – The Story of the National Anthem with Shannon McLucas
Newt's World
Gingrich 360
4.6 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 4 July 2026
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Newt talks with Fort McHenry National Park Ranger and historian Shannon McLucas about the remarkable story behind America's national anthem. McLucas recounts how Francis Scott Key, a Georgetown lawyer sent to negotiate a prisoner release, found himself aboard a British ship during the 25-hour bombardment of Fort McHenry in September 1814, unable to leave as he anxiously watched the battle unfold. His eyewitness emotional reaction became the poem "Defence of Fort M’Henry," set to a familiar tune and spreading virally across the young Republic within weeks. McLucas explains how the song endured for over a century before being officially designated the national anthem in 1931 under President Hoover. Their conversation also covers the hand-sewn garrison flag made by Baltimore seamstress Mary Pickersgill, what visitors can experience at Fort McHenry today, and how the fort celebrates the Fourth of July with a public reading of the Declaration of Independence.
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| 0:12.2 | The Greatest American Inventions. |
| 0:14.8 | Today's invention did not exist until 1998, but it is now so woven into daily life that most people under 40 probably can't |
| 0:25.4 | imagine a world without it. The internet search engine. By the mid-1990s, the World Wide Web was |
| 0:34.7 | growing explosively, millions of pages, billions of words, and almost no reliable way to find what you were looking for. |
| 0:44.3 | The search engines of that era, how to Vista, Excite, Likos, Yahoo, ranked results largely by keyword frequency. |
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| 2:07.4 | They built a search agent, ran it from Stanford servers, |
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