We got the dog, Jared Gough. I want to thank you for coming.

This is a guy, this is the type of guys I align with because you're tech, you're literally, you couldn't be more the man on paper.

Seriously though, like, you're in Hollywood,

you grew up in California.

I mean, to go on to be, not only be the quarterback

of the fucking, the team team in Hollywood but you're transforming the

fucking you're part of the huge transformation that's happened.

Thank you yeah.

And and my point is you act the exact same. I've known I mean we didn't we haven't seen each other in person a long time but just it's notorious that you haven't changed. I try to be the same way no matter what happens so I appreciate you coming on.

I want to dive right into this. I want to dive right into this our initial meeting.

We might have to tailor what exactly the details are.

Yes.

But 2012?

It was summer of 2014.

Okay.

So this is right when I'm starting to get popular in certain parts of the country.

Sure. But we go to this show. I want to say that was the smallest show of the entire tour.

You remember that song in Oakland? Yeah, you were playing in Oakland and I had been a

fan of your music for probably a year or two at this point. And I just had finished my freshman year at Cal. We were no good. I was nobody, I mean we were nothing. And me and my

buddies were like, hey, he plays in Oakland. Like we saw your tour, we saw where you're going,

like what's going to be the one we can make? Hey, he plays in Oakland. I think it was in July yeah like we're gonna we're gonna go to that

and like all right cool like me and my friends in Berkeley were like we're gonna go

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