Hi, I'm Katie Miller. Welcome to my podcast. I'm

joined here by the Vice President of the United States, J.D. Vance. Good to see you.

Thanks for doing this. Of course. I'm excited. One full circle moment here is being the communications director to a vice president, now sitting here interviewing the current vice president. So you know what all these guys had to deal with earlier? It is quite a time. It's been a busy day. Those who are watching at home will not realize that we were originally supposed to do this like hours ago at my house.

We had to cancel that. I had a call with the president. Other things happened. And now here we are. But we did it. We actually made it. And not that far off. No. Five hours later. That's not too bad. Okay. 10 out of 10.

10.

So we'll go back.

So when you moved into the vice president's residence, had you seen it before?

No, I'd you seen it before?

No, I'd never seen it before.

And there was a bit of a controversy.

I don't remember exactly what had happened, but I think that normally it's customary for

the outgoing vice president to show the incoming vice president's family, the house.

And we have three little kids.

So I guess at the time, our kids were like seven, five,

and two, I guess Mirabelle turned three right before the inauguration.

And so now they're a little bit older, but they had never seen this house,

and Usha really wanted to show them.

So what we actually proposed is recognizing the weirdness of the politics, can Usha take the kids over and just show them where they're going to be living for the next four years? And they were rebuffed. So we took some like old diagrams and some old photos and tried to show the kids. Actually a friend of ours in Cincinnati had a book about the vice president's residence. And so we would show the kids what it would look like, but that's as close as they got to it. But it's a really beautiful house. So President Trump always jokes with me that I actually have the nicest house because, you know, the White House is a bit of fishbowl, as you know very well. The VPR is this beautiful sort of 150-year-old mansion, but it's got 30 acres of private property,

private space. So it actually feels like a real family home for us, which is really nice.

Out of the public eye.

Out of the public eye. That's right.

Did she leave any furniture behind? A note? What was it like when you moved in?

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