Hi, James. Ben, how are you?

I'm relatively okay.

Only relatively okay.

I want to do something other than good or fine, and I realized that I had this idea

and I didn't think of a word ahead of time, and so suddenly I had to make something up,

but I could with relatively okay, and it's terrible.

I apologize.

It might be terrible, but it's an. I apologize. Well, it might be terrible,

but it's an improvement on fine. Okay. Hey, five, for us Americans, fine means fine. And yes, I know

you guys, what was the, the tweet I sent you? It was British, not Australian, but it ranges from

fine to I'm very angry at you to the world is ending. And it did give me a little more insight into your response. That is it. I don't know. I do feel like when people have said that to me,

it's probably more in the Commonwealth countries that they use it. But when they've said that to me,

it's probably more on the world is ending spectrum of things. They just for whatever reason,

don't want to talk about it.

And I normally take the cue and don't ask anymore. But you ask me, which I appreciate. I appreciate your care.

So speaking of caring, I don't know if that's a segue that makes sense, but this, this episode of Explanit is sponsored as every episode is this

year by MailChimp. MailChimp had a big feature in the New York Times this week by Farad Manju,

his column writing about how they are a several hundred million dollar company that has taken

no venture capital, kind of totally bootstrapped. They're actually a side business for other business.

They've been around for quite a while, And now they serve millions of businesses, including shrotechery. So we'll put a link to that in the show

notes, but for now, are things to MailChimp for sponsoring Exponent? Indeed. It was interesting

that Farhad mentioned that you might have, you might have heard of MailChimp because of the fact they sponsor

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