Episode 09: The Outside World

Love and Radio: Blood Memory

Love and Radio

Documentary, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.6 • 2.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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“If you marry a prisoner, you only know this person when they’re sitting next to you on a chair in the prison visiting room.“ After 45 years behind bars, Michael adjusts to life on the outside, makes new friends, and starts a business. But things quickly unravel. PLAYLIST!https://sereptie.bandcamp.com/track/the-melt https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/fau https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/lampyridae https://andrewfrankel.bandcamp.com/album/romaslend https://inter-bellum.bandcamp.com/track/disintegration-falls https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/corporal https://sereptie.bandcamp.com/track/chiron https://sereptie.bandcamp.com/track/s-and-s https://soundcloud.com/tambi3n/sets/zoroxxe https://inter-bellum.bandcamp.com/track/interlude-04 https://eileanrec.bandcamp.com/track/red-grey-orange LSC - Star of the Sea (Unreleased) https://ab-strangebird-sounds.bandcamp.com/track/old-map Guts and Erasures - Sereptie (Unreleased) https://banabila.bandcamp.com/track/not-in-our-name https://sereptie.bandcamp.com/track/a-real-person-in-the-window https://quixosis.bandcamp.com/track/descomposicion-2-stillness-2 https://soundcloud.com/tambi3n/00-glacial https://soundcloud.com/tambi3n/02-esperame-un-segundo-mstr-2448-etv2?in=tambi3n%2Fsets%2Fzoroxxe-nefelomancia https://sereptie.bandcamp.com/track/asonata https://sereptie.bandcamp.com/track/the-devoted-fifth https://tamben.bandcamp.com/track/kon https://quixosis.bandcamp.com/track/descomposicion-iv-triple-n https://dj-masuno.bandcamp.com/track/hortela https://microhm.bandcamp.com/track/emerging-from-the-depths https://soundcloud.com/tambi3n/07-tahuando https://andrewheath.bandcamp.com/track/the-absentee https://tambien.bandcamp.com/track/aurora https://daisyrickman.bandcamp.com/track/blue-morning https://quixosis.bandcamp.com/track/lisergium-tremens CREDITS! Additional Voice: Tina Antolini Series Producer: Meera Kumar Managing Editor: Robin Amer Additional Reporting: Brian Krans and Anya Schultz Fact Checking: Nicole Pasulka Contributing Editor: Allison Herrera Visuals: Orla Mc Hardy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:36.1	Previously on blood memory.
0:41.5	The board will make its decision, and I will be supportive of whatever that is, because I don't
0:47.3	believe all this is the exact right thing either.
0:50.6	When he actually called me, he was in tears.
0:53.2	You know, Ryan, he says, I'm going to let you go.
0:56.0	The vein side of me was like, I should have gone.
0:58.2	He wouldn't have been out.
1:00.1	He said, here's my advice to you.
1:01.8	If you will embrace that humility every day when you get up, you'll be fine.
1:08.4	From love and radio, you're listening to blood memory.
1:11.6	I'm Nick VanderKulk.
1:13.6	This is episode 9, the outside world.
1:17.6	45 years in prison.
1:23.6	Intellectually you realize this is going to be hard. For 45 years he didn't see trees,
1:30.3	just concrete. It was sad to think about that because he's such a nature boy. He's such a nature boy.
1:39.3	He told me about one incident where he was taken to a surgery.
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